Sähköstartti pikkulättään

[Jasu T]

Otsikon mukaista ihmettelyä. Itseäni ei tuo pikkulätyskän sähköinen käynnistäminen niin isosti ole edes ajatuksen tasolla häirinnyt, mutta asia on tullut "kummallisen ajankohtaiseksi" Servicaria kaupatessa. Useampi sitä mahdollisuutta on jo kysynyt, että saako sen siihen ja jos saa niin miten...

Täältä sitä tietoa luultavasti löytyisi, ehkä osiakin. Jotain kuviakin joskus vastaani aiheesta tullut on, mutta nyt sitten etsiskellessä ei meinaa oikein mitään löytyä...

[hemuli]

Eikös niissä uudemmissa servicareissa sellainen ollut jo tehtaalta?

[smuige]

ServiCariin tuli sähköstartti jo vuotta ennen Electraa eli vuonna 1964.

Tässä yksi asennusohje:

Electric Starter Installation on Harley Servicar
1. Wire bike for 12 volts, see 6 to 12 volt conversion page

2. Parts You Need

You need to accumulate these parts:

Larger 12 volt battery to mount in box (standard riding lawnmower battery will work)

Auto advance timer for 45 with a 15 degree advance (Sportster timers fit but have 30 degrees advance)

1964-65 is cheapest and worst; I would advise not to buy one of these, they are extremely hard to adjust

1966-73 is most expensive, hardest to find, and best, this is what you need to buy

Alternative is to have advance changed to 15 degrees on a Sportster timer

1964-65 Harley electric starter top and starter gear box (cheapest and works) or 1966-73 electric starter top with gear box and solenoid (most expensive, hardest to find, and works best).

Six 10-24 x 7/16 cstk screws #1762W, available from after market suppliers

Two 10-24 x 1 ctsk screws #1781W, available from after market suppliers

1964-73 electric starter clutch basket with starter gear ring

Harley electric starter motor 31455-64A

Electric starter relay 71455-67 or similar relay



3. How to Do It

Remove smaller original battery from frame mount under seat and Install larger 12 volt battery (possibly riding lawn mower battery) in servicar box and wire.

Install auto advance timer.

Remove transmission case top, outer primary cover, and clutch assembly.

Install electric starter clutch basket with ring gear and reassembly clutch

Drill and tap holes at top of transmission case, which hold top to case, to accept 10-24 threads. I believe this is a special weird Harley size thread, however many aftermarket suppliers sell this tap. I personally would be scared to do this with transmission together and in frame, however it might can be done with care. Not sure. Transmission gears will eat up any left over metal fragments.

Install electric starter top and gasket with the 8 larger 10/24 cstk screws, if using 1964-65 assembly you will have to also bolt the starter gear box to the top.

Partially install the primary cover to mark the area at the top which will need to be cut out were starter gear meshes to ring gear on electric starter clutch basket.

Cut only needed area out and reinstall the primary cover

Install starter motor to top.

Mount the starter relay, servicars typically had them mounted under the box or next to battery.

Run positive line to starter's positive terminal with relay installed inline.

Install starter button and wire starter button to the relay.

Push the button.

Ja tuohon liittyen konversio 6V -> 12V

6 to 12 Volt Conversion for Harley 45
1. Parts List

12 volt bulbs

12 volt generator - 29975-65A or reproduction

12 volt coil - 31602-30B-12V or reproduction

12 volt generator mounting screws (two 30013-58 5/16-24 or two 1/4" helicoils and two 6 volt screws)

12 volt battery - 12N5 same size replacement for kick start or riding lawn mower battery or elec starter

12 volt regulator - 74511-65 Bosch type or HD regulator 74510-64

Bosch regular mounting bracket - Aftermarket, if Bosch type regulator is installed



2. Installation

Change out all bulbs, it is a good idea to install inline circuit breakers also. I installed a breaker under each side of dash mount and at positive side of battery. Clip in breaker holders can be riveted to underside of dash mount. Install battery.

Install 12 volt generator. If you have a pre 1958 cam cover, the generator bolt holes will be too small. You can either install 1/4" helicoils in two generator holes (learned on FHP board from Cotten at Liberty Cycles) and use old 6 volt generator screws or drill out two cam cover holes to fit 12 volt generator bolts. This will create a very minimal amount of filings, however don't get any in the motor. Be sure the gear on the cam side of the generator is correct for the idler gear and that it has an oil slinger attached

Install 12 volt coil and 12 volt regular that you selected.



3. Wiring the Regulator

If using the HD 74510-64 regulator, the "A" terminal of generator goes to the "GEN" terminal on the regular, the "F" goes to the "F", and the "BAT" goes to the battery.

If using the Bosch type regulator, the "A" terminal on the generator goes to the "D+" on the regulator, the "D" on the regulator goes to a ground, the "DF" on the regulator goes to the generator "F" terminal, the "B+" on the regulator goes to ammeter (if you run one) or the the positive battery post or battery terminal at the ignition switch, and the "61" goes to the generator idiot light.

Both type regulators must be polarized or flashed. Remove the "DF" wire and momentarily touch it to the "B+". It will spark and the generator will be flashed.

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[Jasu T]

Olihan niissä uudemmissa, joskus muistaakseni -63 tuli sähköstartti näihin..?

Kiitoksia Smuigelle, eiköhän tällä jo kivasti homma etene. Kuten myös Juvakalle, joka myös tietoa asiasta välitti..!

[hemuli]

"Drill and tap holes at top of transmission case, which hold top to case, to accept 10-24 threads. I believe this is a special weird Harley size thread, however many aftermarket suppliers sell this tap. I personally would be scared to do this with transmission together and in frame, however it might can be done with care. Not sure. Transmission gears will eat up any left over metal fragments."

Tuokin onnistuu ilman että tarvitsee jauhaa kierteytyslastuja rattaiden välissä kun kuorruttaa poranterän ja kierretapin paksulla vaseliinilla ennen käyttöä, purut jää siihen kiinni eivätkä putoa laatikon sisään.

[poromarko]

Käy Jasu kattoon Jämsässä .Henellä on raikissa startti ,onkos 50km j-kylästä?

[Jasu T]

Pitäs varmaan pyörähtään Jämpsän suunnalla muillakin asioilla jossain vaiheessa kevättä, täytynee soitella hänellenkin siis tässä aiheessa...

Jotain tuollasta kyllä muistelin että hänenkin laitteessa sähköistä apua käynnistelyyn olis...